1 00:00:07,730 --> 00:00:06,349 and the right hand was cut off this is 2 00:00:11,060 --> 00:00:07,740 the back of the head of a young girl in 3 00:00:13,459 --> 00:00:11,070 Nigeria from the ebo tribe who remember 4 00:00:17,150 --> 00:00:13,469 the life of a man who had had brain 5 00:00:19,220 --> 00:00:17,160 surgery for intracranial tumor and she 6 00:00:20,890 --> 00:00:19,230 was born with this remarkable scar in 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:20,900 the back of her head 8 00:00:25,490 --> 00:00:23,130 again these birthmarks these birth 9 00:00:29,740 --> 00:00:25,500 defects make no sense in terms of what 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:32,690 paul von ward who was not associated 11 00:00:38,930 --> 00:00:36,050 with our group claims to have found 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:38,940 amazing similarities in the facial 13 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:41,250 geometry of people who remember a past 14 00:00:48,020 --> 00:00:43,920 life and the person they claimed to have 15 00:00:50,569 --> 00:00:48,030 been in a past life and he is matched up 16 00:00:53,689 --> 00:00:50,579 photographs of the present person and 17 00:00:56,750 --> 00:00:53,699 the past life person he's developed six 18 00:00:59,229 --> 00:00:56,760 biometric ratios that he claims are more 19 00:01:02,619 --> 00:00:59,239 similar in these matched pairs than with 20 00:01:06,170 --> 00:01:02,629 control subjects 21 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:06,180 the difficulty with Von Ward's data is 22 00:01:10,969 --> 00:01:08,159 that these measurements were not done 23 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:10,979 blindly Vaughn Ward himself made the 24 00:01:16,670 --> 00:01:12,990 measurements on the subjects and on the 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:16,680 photos of the deceased persons so what 26 00:01:22,670 --> 00:01:19,170 we would like to do is try to replicate 27 00:01:24,980 --> 00:01:22,680 his findings in a blind manner that is 28 00:01:28,789 --> 00:01:24,990 have one person make the measurements on 29 00:01:30,050 --> 00:01:28,799 the subject have a different person make 30 00:01:33,230 --> 00:01:30,060 the measurements unfroze with the 31 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:33,240 deceased person and then a third person 32 00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:35,970 who doesn't know which is which see if 33 00:01:40,670 --> 00:01:37,710 they can match up the correct person 34 00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:40,680 with a deceased one of the problems 35 00:01:44,330 --> 00:01:42,030 we're going to have those we have a very 36 00:01:46,910 --> 00:01:44,340 limited sample of photographs of the 37 00:01:49,690 --> 00:01:46,920 deceased person most of these are in 38 00:01:54,980 --> 00:01:49,700 remote areas in underdeveloped countries 39 00:01:58,429 --> 00:01:54,990 but we do have some the second 40 00:02:00,679 --> 00:01:58,439 hypothesis about survival is that people 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:00,689 who are now deceased are still surviving 42 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:04,530 in some form and we have lots of 43 00:02:08,540 --> 00:02:05,759 evidence that contributes to this 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:08,550 hypothesis most commonly are interactive 45 00:02:13,369 --> 00:02:10,649 apparitions and these are not talking 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:13,379 about ghosts in haunted houses that just 47 00:02:15,290 --> 00:02:13,810 wander 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:15,300 and don't talk to I'm talking about 49 00:02:21,570 --> 00:02:18,370 visions apparitions that interact and 50 00:02:23,940 --> 00:02:21,580 respond meaningfully with you these 51 00:02:26,610 --> 00:02:23,950 often occur around the time of the death 52 00:02:28,350 --> 00:02:26,620 of the person who's dead and they will 53 00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:28,360 communicate meaningful things to the 54 00:02:35,130 --> 00:02:33,880 person who's having the vision there 55 00:02:37,530 --> 00:02:35,140 have been some attempts in recent years 56 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:37,540 to try to induce these communications 57 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:41,050 with interactive visions Raymond Moody 58 00:02:43,979 --> 00:02:42,160 who coined the term near-death 59 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:43,989 experience developed what he called the 60 00:02:50,789 --> 00:02:47,130 psychomanteum which is essentially a 61 00:02:53,699 --> 00:02:50,799 sensory deprivation room in which after 62 00:02:56,759 --> 00:02:53,709 an elaborate ritual people go into this 63 00:02:59,940 --> 00:02:56,769 room and try to invoke a vision of the 64 00:03:02,309 --> 00:02:59,950 deceased and in some cases with some 65 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:02,319 good facilitators people do have these 66 00:03:07,860 --> 00:03:05,920 interactive visions there's a 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:07,870 psychologist in the VA system of Albert 68 00:03:14,030 --> 00:03:11,370 Caen who was using EMDR to treat 69 00:03:16,589 --> 00:03:14,040 veterans with post-traumatic stress and 70 00:03:18,599 --> 00:03:16,599 he found serendipitously that some of 71 00:03:22,110 --> 00:03:18,609 them as he was doing this would have 72 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:22,120 visions of their fallen comrades that 73 00:03:26,460 --> 00:03:24,609 interacted with them and this turned out 74 00:03:29,220 --> 00:03:26,470 to be so therapeutic for the vets that 75 00:03:31,949 --> 00:03:29,230 he started trying to induce it using 76 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:31,959 EMDR and suggestion and in fact has 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:33,760 claimed a fair amount of success in 78 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:35,290 getting the introduced these visions 79 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:37,209 which are interactive and communicate in 80 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:43,140 then we have communication through 81 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:45,310 mediums and you've heard this excellent 82 00:03:50,099 --> 00:03:47,350 presentation from Julie I won't repeat 83 00:03:52,050 --> 00:03:50,109 what she said I will tell you though 84 00:03:55,410 --> 00:03:52,060 that our lab Emily Kelly and our 85 00:03:57,690 --> 00:03:55,420 division has replicated this work with 86 00:04:00,990 --> 00:03:57,700 slightly different technology and found 87 00:04:02,610 --> 00:04:01,000 equally impressive results this is 88 00:04:08,220 --> 00:04:02,620 madonna's you know by Gary Schwartz is 89 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:08,230 lab by our lab by a group in Scotland 90 00:04:13,229 --> 00:04:11,650 Archie Roy and Tricia Ritchie so it's 91 00:04:17,699 --> 00:04:13,239 been replicated in several places now in 92 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:17,709 the last couple of decades Julie told 93 00:04:21,449 --> 00:04:19,840 you about the elaborate controls we try 94 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:21,459 to put in to make sure that the medium 95 00:04:28,790 --> 00:04:24,370 isn't getting sensory cues from the 96 00:04:31,770 --> 00:04:28,800 sitter or using super sight from the 97 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:31,780 there's another type of data from 98 00:04:36,719 --> 00:04:33,940 mediumship sittings that eliminates that 99 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:36,729 possibility and that's what's called a 100 00:04:45,390 --> 00:04:42,310 drop in communicator these are allegedly 101 00:04:48,180 --> 00:04:45,400 deceased people who come to a mediumship 102 00:04:50,219 --> 00:04:48,190 session a seance and no one in the room 103 00:04:55,860 --> 00:04:50,229 knew of the medium nor the sitters knows 104 00:04:57,900 --> 00:04:55,870 this person these are unusual they 105 00:05:00,570 --> 00:04:57,910 provide great evidence because you can't 106 00:05:01,700 --> 00:05:00,580 get the information by normal means but 107 00:05:05,399 --> 00:05:01,710 they're rare 108 00:05:08,330 --> 00:05:05,409 however in Stevenson found more than 66 109 00:05:12,330 --> 00:05:08,340 Oh of these in the published literature 110 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:12,340 let me give you an example in a small 111 00:05:18,809 --> 00:05:15,330 village of about 5,000 people in Tuscany 112 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:18,819 there was a day laborer who in his 20s 113 00:05:24,990 --> 00:05:22,090 developed mediumship abilities and he 114 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:25,000 used to give seances he didn't charge 115 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:27,280 for them ten local villagers would come 116 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:29,199 one of them would take VirB verbatim 117 00:05:35,330 --> 00:05:31,780 notes and it would have these seances 118 00:05:37,499 --> 00:05:35,340 periodically and at one point a 119 00:05:40,499 --> 00:05:37,509 communicator appeared at one of these 120 00:05:43,230 --> 00:05:40,509 seances and said his name was Giuseppe 121 00:05:48,450 --> 00:05:43,240 Riccardi and he was a Roman Catholic 122 00:05:51,659 --> 00:05:48,460 priest in Canton Ohio no one the room 123 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:51,669 knew of this fellow he said that he had 124 00:05:59,779 --> 00:05:54,310 been shot with a revolver by one of his 125 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:03,420 father Riccardi appeared in a couple of 126 00:06:08,580 --> 00:06:05,710 more seances over the pier in the next 127 00:06:10,529 --> 00:06:08,590 couple of years and all the times he 128 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:10,539 appeared no one in the room had ever 129 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:14,710 heard of father Ricardo at one of these 130 00:06:18,930 --> 00:06:16,449 seances there was an Italian researcher 131 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:18,940 present who wrote to Ian Stevenson and 132 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:22,449 said this guy says he lived in Ohio can 133 00:06:27,749 --> 00:06:24,690 you track down whether he really did 134 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:27,759 well we didn't have a date of death so 135 00:06:33,659 --> 00:06:30,130 it wasn't easy but one of our research 136 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:33,669 assistants contacted the archdiocese in 137 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:36,849 Youngstown Ohio and confirmed that there 138 00:06:43,379 --> 00:06:40,810 was a Giuseppe Riccardi who had been the 139 00:06:44,879 --> 00:06:43,389 parish priest in Canton Ohio for four 140 00:06:48,589 --> 00:06:44,889 years before he was shot by a 141 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:48,599 parishioner he had just finished Mass 142 00:06:55,529 --> 00:06:52,050 everyone left and one woman came in 143 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:55,539 pointed a gun at him and said a few 144 00:07:01,740 --> 00:06:58,690 words and then shot him he lived long 145 00:07:05,129 --> 00:07:01,750 enough to ask her why don't you do this 146 00:07:08,459 --> 00:07:05,139 and by what he said to the medium she 147 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:08,469 gave an answer he didn't understand now 148 00:07:11,370 --> 00:07:09,969 that we had the date of death from the 149 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:11,380 Archdiocese he went to the newspapers 150 00:07:16,019 --> 00:07:13,810 and we found reports in several Ohio 151 00:07:18,499 --> 00:07:16,029 newspapers about this confirming the 152 00:07:20,909 --> 00:07:18,509 details of it 153 00:07:23,370 --> 00:07:20,919 so everything that the medium came up 154 00:07:25,230 --> 00:07:23,380 with an Italy turned out to be true we 155 00:07:27,450 --> 00:07:25,240 then contacted the researcher in Italy 156 00:07:29,159 --> 00:07:27,460 and said now we here's the date which 157 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:29,169 has happened go back and check the 158 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:32,770 Italian newspapers no account had 159 00:07:36,749 --> 00:07:34,810 appeared in the newspapers that were 160 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:36,759 circulating in the small village in 161 00:07:43,950 --> 00:07:40,089 Tuscany they eventually found one report 162 00:07:47,149 --> 00:07:43,960 in newspaper in Rome that did report the 163 00:07:49,589 --> 00:07:47,159 death of father Giuseppe Riccardi and 164 00:07:54,570 --> 00:07:49,599 the newspaper account placed it in 165 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:54,580 Canton China which is that 20 times the 166 00:07:58,769 --> 00:07:56,110 size of Canton Ohio so it's less of a 167 00:08:00,959 --> 00:07:58,779 mistake so it's unlikely that this 168 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:00,969 medium had gotten the information by any 169 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:06,610 normal means one other way you might be 170 00:08:12,810 --> 00:08:09,550 able to differentiate supersized um 171 00:08:15,269 --> 00:08:12,820 survival is by evidence of strong 172 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:15,279 motivation on the part of the deceased 173 00:08:20,010 --> 00:08:18,089 the discarnate to communicate and 174 00:08:23,519 --> 00:08:20,020 there's another remarkable 175 00:08:26,249 --> 00:08:23,529 drop in communicator that Ian and 176 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:26,259 Erlander Hamilton from Iceland studied 177 00:08:32,130 --> 00:08:29,130 they were doing studies of the 178 00:08:35,550 --> 00:08:32,140 professional Icelandic medium hoffstein 179 00:08:39,899 --> 00:08:35,560 bjornsen and at one of your instance 180 00:08:42,839 --> 00:08:39,909 meet seances a character appeared and 181 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:42,849 said that he had been buried without his 182 00:08:46,610 --> 00:08:44,410 leg that had been dismembered shortly 183 00:08:49,780 --> 00:08:46,620 before death and he wanted the lake 184 00:08:51,250 --> 00:08:49,790 buried with the body 185 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:51,260 no one in the room knew what he was 186 00:08:56,980 --> 00:08:52,880 talking about no one recognized the 187 00:09:00,240 --> 00:08:56,990 story this discarnate this alleged 188 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:00,250 discarnate reappeared many times in 189 00:09:05,860 --> 00:09:03,410 different hafsteinn bjornsen seances 190 00:09:08,620 --> 00:09:05,870 with different sitters present and none 191 00:09:10,810 --> 00:09:08,630 of them ever recognized the story but 192 00:09:14,590 --> 00:09:10,820 eventually he gave enough detail that 193 00:09:17,470 --> 00:09:14,600 they're able to find the leg and bury it 194 00:09:19,930 --> 00:09:17,480 in the anonymous graveyard in the church 195 00:09:23,980 --> 00:09:19,940 that he claimed was his after that 196 00:09:26,380 --> 00:09:23,990 happened he never appeared again that 197 00:09:32,370 --> 00:09:26,390 suggests some motivation on the part of 198 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:35,500 okay we also have evidence from 199 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:37,250 instrumental transcommunication what 200 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:38,450 used to be called electronic voice 201 00:09:43,150 --> 00:09:40,610 phenomena these are situations in which 202 00:09:44,740 --> 00:09:43,160 an alleged discarnates seems to be 203 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:44,750 communicating through some mechanical 204 00:09:49,060 --> 00:09:47,030 device now if you lived electromagnetic 205 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:49,070 like a telephone or television or a 206 00:09:53,650 --> 00:09:51,980 radio or a computer one of the 207 00:09:56,290 --> 00:09:53,660 difficulties with this research is that 208 00:09:58,980 --> 00:09:56,300 the signals usually come through on top